Lil stuff

[i AwoN i]

I think little things are what seperates great from mediocre. Help me out clan. Try to avoid saying really obvious shit like lol bxr etc. Also get level /gametype specefic if you musst.

1-Chaaase-If you're playing someone w better weapon /position /whatever, seriously try to set them up to chase you so that if they chase you you can predict what they will do /how they will chase you and make it so by chasing you they set THEMSELVES up to get killed instead of the other way around, works good when you put yourself in a tough spot and really good against kill whores with power weps if you intentionally let em take down your shield than trick them into following you.

2-Team Radar-Levels with multiple floors with good teamwork you can screw with their radar really bad. If you have a guy on floor 1 and guy on 2 and the badguy is on floor 2, the guy on floor 1 can screw with the bad guys radar big time to set his teammate up for assasination /first shot.

3-Terminal CTF-Iunt care if they took btb out this works better in 4v4 even though I never get a good map like terminal in skirmish I only get ctf on gay new maps, but yeah, drop down to the 2 plasmas, cross the tracks and as you cross the tracks ricotche a frag off the wall the hog usually goes under, simultaneously switch to plasma and stick the hog so when the frag explodes the plasma is stuck and you get a double /triple kill with dos grenades. This is VERY easy if you get the timing down and spawn in the right spot, half the time I would spawn in the wrong spot so my random teammate would get the plasmas than go jerk off in the tank or turret, hog is huge so blowing it up with just grenades at the start of the game is really beneficial to the team.

[TheTrojanBunny]

Well, something I notice alot of people doing (including myself) is chasing wounded animals. Example:

Lets say your P1, and you see a guy at P2. He doesn't know your there. Since your out of nades, you open up, and get him down to one shot. Now you go in the finish him off. But SUPRISE! As you come up, there's a grenade waiting for you as you come up, and you get taken out.

Moral of the story: NEVER chase a wounded animal unless you have to, call them out to your teammates, because any player with at least some amount of brains will drop a nade where you will come up

[TN GUNRUNNER]

lol i do that all the time and it works sometimes

[i AwoN i]

You don't even have to do that sometimes if you hide in the right spot you can kill them without using any grenades. The trick is to fool GOOD players into chasing you, also you can trick them into running into teammates etc. instead.

4-If they have a power weapon, specefically sniper, some maps BR...say they have snipe or br br tower and your stuck snipe tower. Get near cover than turn your back pop out strafe stutter step etc. keep doing this over and over again until they figure out shooting you in the back 3 times with br or once with snipe is only wasting their ammo. Bad kids waste all the ammo good people only do it once or twice but that could make a difference esp if youre locked down with nothing better to do.

[OcR Asians]

Your tip 2 a1 is pretty sick, but it really is hard to pull off. Especially on small maps like midship, and warlock. Hah.

I got a few.

Patience is one of the many attributes that a few of us have. Well, if I'm feeling like thinking and playing right, all I have to do is wait for someone to come near me while I am crouching, and most of the time if you aren't in an obvious spot that people look at when running to, you'll be able to kill them without any problem (unless host crap). Also, this will reduce your death in-game obviously.

And from that tip comes another one. When running around, make sure that you look around a lot. You see those red xs when your teammate gets killed? Don't run down there, just expect the enemy from coming that way, if they aren't obvious you'll be ready to get at them and finish them off. A lot of people I play with don't really pay attention to the x's.

I have a lot more in the back of my head, but for now, I'll just say this. When all spawning together, SPREAD OUT. I've had a lot of times when I was spawned in blue 1 of lockout and it was really hard to get out. My teammates always went up the lift thinking that they would be able pull off some miraculous crap, but they always ended up dying. Heh, go the less obvious ways, think like how you're opponent would think and you'll be able to get out of the blue 1 spawns.

I have more.. OH YEAH, communicate, and when you communicate, try to help out as well.

[i AwoN i]

Yeah good stuff asians, you have to REALLY know the dudes you're playing with to do my #2, I've really only done it with a few of my btb ppl but if you want to start trying that I'm up for it, it's really hard to get it to a tee though.

Patience with practice I think is huge, which is also why I think theres a difference between average and great. I think you need to know when to be aggressive and when to play defensive, constantly changing playstyle throughout the game, which can be difficult if you have a few kills and want to get some fast (may get to agressive) or just got a running riot or something and want to keep it going so you do something stupid. Patience is one thing I don't think many people have, I hate my teammates that rush like mad in a 10 minute game and keep dying like there is only 1 minute left. I am guilty of this a lot which is why btb is all I like, no trick spawns, nothing you can do if I'm sittin in your zone spawn camping you unlike slayer or other gametypes.


#4-You dont have to shoot everything that moves--Know how many times I see peoples rectile turn red so automatically they start firing like mad? Umm, if you shoot people 1-Now know where you are 2-Now know what weapons you have and 3-Now they know you see them (really only if they have back /side to you). Someitmes it's best to not shoot, sneak around and set yourself up for an easy kill. Mainly for the pop shots I get hit in the back with even though it's obvious they aren't going to 4 shot me before I get way out of sight.

#5-Sword shotgun & rockets aren't the only weapons to suprise people with. This was mainly in btb or obj games (not hc obviously) but if I was rushing a power weapon or something, and have a BR and they have an smg, they aren't going to try to 1v1 me. If I run up with an smg and pull out BR after they commit to a 1v1, they are dead.

[OcR Asians]

Another one.

Avoid the Middle. I see it a lot, and I even do it. I start to run through the middle of any map, and if it is one of the more open middle areas, you'll probably get eaten up by team shot by the other team. I know it is tempting, but try using diverse paths that would give you cover. =).

[xxPl4yS0ci3tYxx]

yeah never run through the middle of lockout

[TheTrojanBunny]

A1, I see where your coming from if it's BTB, but in MLG, it is better to shoot anything that moves. Think of it this way. If theres guys shooting you, you'll logically take cover, and therefore, you can't really retaliate without getting cut down. While your sitting behind that wall, you can't see the other enemies flanking you, and breaking your setup.

[Aaecus]

1. When playing Lockout, and the other team is holding the sniper tower, go to the ramp that leads to the bottom of the energy lift. Get the grenades next to the door and return to the bottom of the ramp. Stand on the line where the ramp goes from slant to level and look up. Throw all the grenades aiming directly at the center of the right overhanging support beam. All of the grenades will land on S-2 and will take out anyone standing there. The extreme arc of the throw means that you can have all of the grenades in the air at the same time. This means they land in rapid succesion, giving no time for an enemy to jump out of the way before mutiple blasts take them out. If anyone is unclear on these instructions, party up with me some time and I'll show you.

[OcR Dragon]

Yeah in MLG shoot everything that moves besides your teammates. Its called Team Shooting. Even if you only see them for a split second you still can get one shot off of them so when they run into your team mate they will already be down one shot in the br fight. Thats why if you watch any vids off of Mlgpro.com you will usually see all of the good players pulling in 15+ assists a game.


One tip that I've been working on lately. Know your surrounding! Don't throw yourself out some where that you have no close cover that you can hide behind if your about to die.

2- If your down in a br fight and know you can't win just duck your head and hide behind a wall or some thing. Don't try and be a big shot and out br some one. Because if you dont out br him your letting your team down by being dead and not able to back them up. If you do out br him you get nothing from it, but out shooting some one in a game.

3- Flank your opponents. I try and do this in games as much as I can. A good example for this is Team Slayer on Ivory Tower. Most teams will try and camp the sniper spawn. Is what I like to do if I see my team mates going in on OS side, I try and run to Shotty side. This catches the other team off gaurd. There all looking at OS side while your coming up assasinating them or grenading them from shotty side.

4- Bait your opponents. If you know you have a few team mates behind you and you see a few guys coming at you just run back to your team mates and hope they follow. They will be chasing you thinking its only you but then run into 3 guys.

5- Learn the maps. I know its sounds obvious, but not a lot of people really know the maps. Like on Lockout you can get grenades from Elbow onto BR-3/BR-2/Library, even Library window. Or lets say on Warlock and the game starts for CTF. Most players will rush there shotty as soon as they spawn. So learn the grenade throw that you can land right on the shotty from your base. Also grenade there base from your base.

6- Predict what your opponent is going to do. This is what makes a lot of good players so good. Is because they can usually predict what there opponent is going to do. Try and place your grenades where you think your opponent is going to go.

7- Dont be so predictable. Lets say your getting out br'd so you duck behind a wall. Your opponent isn't expecting you to jump out with no shields and start shooting at them again. Most of the time I do this I catch them throwing a grenade where I was but because I jumped out it missed me and I had 1-2 seconds to shoot them while they wait on the grenade reload.

8- No shields. Lets say your in P3 and your shields go down, is what I like to do is not sit behind the wall and wait for them to recharge, I kinda peek my head out where my team mates are and try to assist them with kills or shoot people that are on Carbon side.


Well I know I have more but cant think of them right now, so I'll make another post later on.

[TN GUNRUNNER]

team bring is great if you can pull it off
all it takes id 1 shot from everyone and ur dead

But noone one my team ever tries it with me

[i AwoN i]

Yeah good stuff...I usually shoot at anything that moves in MLG unless I am close enough for assasination or if 3 are down and I see one running to my base and I have to take a flag or something.

Haha if I knew more good useful tips I'd post em up but I cant remember anything right now.

[OcR Asians]

Nice toss Aaecus. I tried it out and it was good.

[GodofDeathKB]

I hate to say this but some things work better in a custom game with no one else in it while your chunking nades than they will while youre in the heat of a 4 vs 4 battle. The first thing that all of you need to do in order to get better is admit to yourself that youre n need of help. NO ONE, and I do mean that absolutely no one is above learning.

[i AwoN i]

^ Yup, why I think record games will really help people get constructive criticism for h3. If I was better I'd do more of that but past btb /6v6 I don't know much.

[OcR Dragon]

Yeah all of the tips that I posted no body told me, I got them all off of just watching pro vids on mlgpro.com. Just watching those vids I've noticed some improvement in a lot of situations.

So for anyone that doesnt know go to www.mlgpro.com and watch there VoD. There are tons of videos of gameplays there of the pros.

[i AwoN i]

Hey dragon if you have any videos from h3 you can post up I'll look at them I wasn't great but I had 29 in btb I think highest was 30, the guy with the 30 I played a bunch of games with too cause I knew him from h2 I learned a few helpfull things from him for h3 (You are NEVER as good as dead, I've seen this guy get out of ridiculous spots by crouching in a weird spot, he fooled me horribly one time I had rockets and was coming through tunnel I saw his red dot and it looked like it was going away from me but he crouched and moved behind the tunnel so I come out and got assasinated by him, it fooled me pretty bad)

Yah and Sickmike was nice enough to post a gameplay of me ctf on vahalla I saw some really stupid things I did but if you get some time and want to look at it feel free.

[GodofDeathKB]

If anyone has a gameplay that they want me to watch, im happy to give you my critique on it. Id prefer you have audio with the communication and everything. Ill send you a PM back and let you know what I saw.


You would be correct in that its easier to learn from visual aides. Watching VoD and playing with "made" people in the MLG world has made me a better, smarter player. I not only watch VoD but I ask why they did certian things in certian situations.

[i AwoN i]

If you can evaluate an h3 vid feel free to do mine it's in video section its a ranked 6v6 at like low 20s so theres not much to evaluate...yeah I am trying to get into HC for h2 now but I have a lot to learn, I rarely get out-brd I just play really stupid.

[OcR Dragon]

Yeah I dont know any made people, wish I did though lol. Because the best way to get better at some thing is to play with better people. You'll never get better playing against the same skill level as yourself.

[GodofDeathKB]

Well I can try. im not really qualified to evaluate the H3 vids since I havent played the game. Maybe I can pick up on some things though and pass them on.

[i AwoN i]

Dragon you or ANYBODY wants to get good at btb me and carcass played with the best for a while, meh I guess I can kind of be 'known' but only in that community, I know defkism played with some really good people in h3 too.

I say it all the time at least before 07 late 06 but yaa 35+ btb and 31+ 6v6, I think more than half the people were symbols and stuff, once you hit a certain level its not just noobs running around like chickens without a head. Organized GOOD ('newschool' teams were garbage, anyone that played back in the day knows that) ...good teams were so organized and had such good teamwork, ocr has the skill and organization to easily put a squad towards the top for h3 or if they bring something good back for h2.

The ctf vid...it was the highest lvls we could search but they still weren't very good, they had a few 45s in RP on their team but, no good. I basically made sure we got 1 flag cap than held down middle with br, nothing special really. I am calling it now, middle is going to be a bitch on vahalla. There are so many BRs on the map, BRs with longer range...assume its a 6v6, cap it once, get 2 BRs laser spawn, 2 by pelican, and 2 guys in hog by bubble shield /patrolling...that would be so hard to break against a good team, even harder if it was 8v8 and you put 2 more brs into the mix.

[GodofDeathKB]

I agree completely. I remember back when my clan first formed almost 2 years ago. We were so freaking good that we only lost 1 clan match game and we were almost to 30. Our teamwork was incredible and everyone knew what they were doing. Now that our clan has grown the teamwork element is diminshed but there is still plenty of skill.

[i AwoN i]

Woah really^^ Did you ever play The finest or LTL -Last to Live- in clanmatch? Haha I used to play btb with all of them. There are others but I can't think of them at the moment.

[Aaecus]

I hate to say this but some things work better in a custom game with no one else in it while your chunking nades than they will while youre in the heat of a 4 vs 4 battle. I use grenade tosses all the time in-game and they work. It's not a theory, it works.

[OcR Dragon]

Yeah if you practice it enough you'll be able to use grenade throws like that in matches. Even when you watch the Pro vids you will see them set up for a grenade throw from BR-3 to S-3. I've seen Walshy do it many times. It's just a matter of practice and remembering to do them in a tight situation.

Another tip: Stay Calm! For me I start playing really bad if I'm not calmed down. I start getting very sloppy with my BR, but then I just take a deep breathe and just chill out. Is what I mean is when like lets say your in a TS game and they suddenly got a 7+ point lead. Don't panic, just chill out and stick to your strats. When people start to panic is when everything starts to go wrong.

Also Random Grenade throwing. Lets say your on Midship and the game just started and everyone is rushing pink side. I like to just throw random grenades to there pink side to either slow them down or hit one of them and my team mates finish them off.

Or just throw grenades anywhere that you think your opponent might be. You'll be surprised on how many random double kills/sticks you will get from doing this. Like you throw a random grenade in P2 and then out Br some one and get a double kill, happens to me a lot. It's a very good way to lower the other teams shields and have your team mates finish them off.

[TN GUNRUNNER]

ya in H3 my team would have the lead then they would strees about lossing it and we would so i had to pull them all back together and set up a plan

one of the biggest this is TEAMWORK if you dont have it your done
you must have it to succed

[Aaecus]

I'm in that awkward in-between stage where I'm just good enough to not enjoy playing with regular MM players but not good enough to get noticed by anyone who is better than me. I'd like to get better, but I either dominate the game or I get so outmatched that I don't even have a chance. Neither are any fun and I used to play Halo just for the fun of it. Now I care so much about winning that I don't just enjoy playing anymore...........I don't know what to do. Unless Halo 3 doesn't end up being as abused as Halo 2 has gotten to be, (with the cheaters and whiners and quitters and trash-talkers), I think I may stop playing Halo for good.

[i AwoN i]

h3 is cool cause you can mute right quick by scrolling down and pushing X. I lost having fun with h2 when btb died, it died in like 2006ish when a lot of good teams quit and horrible teams started forming and "taking over", thats why I wasnt as mad as I thought I'd be when it got removed, most of the people with high ranks would have gotten shit on if they had those ranks a year ago.

If you want to have fun with it DERANK! If I had to pick a top 10 most fun moments with h2 (I've had some CLOSE games with some very known people) one of them would absolutely be deranking with mcdohl. I cant put my finger on it but doing crouching laps around the map as an alien makes me laugh like no other. Just doing really stupid stuff as an alien makes me laugh so hard.

[TheTrojanBunny]

Here's an FFA tip: If you are getting angry, you are getting distracted. So here is the solution: If you are getting angry, or fear you will, simply take out your mic, and play without it, and prefferably with a headset/earphones, as they will improve your gameplay by GREATLY increasing your hearing, and I know from experience, that the better you hear, the better you play, as you can hear the *click click* when someone bounces a frag towards you.